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Post by aarog5606 on Nov 12, 2009 18:49:18 GMT
So i should have all the connectors and cables i need. I have 2 6pin connectors, one being used now and an extra one. I have the cable with 2 extra sata connectors which between it and the other 6 pin connector take up the other 2 6 pin slots in the back of my power supply. I have an extra sata connector in my pc now not being used if i need it. Am i missing anything?
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Post by aarog5606 on Nov 12, 2009 19:10:49 GMT
Aaron can run crossfire using two 5770 if he like. He will have to run the 2nd with only 8 lanes (x8) but he will not likely see any performance drop at all. Edited: That is compared to if his motherboard had 2 PCI Express 2.0 x16 slots. Poul Ok now im confused, are you saying that my mb does not have 2 PCI Express 2.0 x16 slots? In the 3rd picture of my pc, isnt the slot below the video card a PCI Express 2.0 x16 slot? It looks like the slot the Video card is plugged into now, but of couse with it plugged in its hard to see for sure. Lol, Sorry for being so ignorant.
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Post by TheGreenMonster (PC) on Nov 12, 2009 19:23:08 GMT
I re-read his spec sheet and it say , you guys need re-read that spec sheet
PCI-E 2.0 x16, PCI-E 2.0 x8, Three PCI-E x1, and Two PCI Slots. 4 x onboard USB 2.0 ports, 1 x onboard 1394a
The other PCI-E slot you see is only 8X and not a 16X card slot. You need two perfectly match cards with the same firmware version. If not you have nightmare trying debug it.
Grnkjr0 yea liquid cooling is the new thing with the Intel Extreme processors, I'm not sure about Europe but they have them everywhere here in the states. I guess because I'm old I can't handle that high resolution I like to be able to see my icons my res is 1152 X 846 and in the game it's 1024 x 768 and everything works fine for me.
Monster
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Post by Bandit (PC/PS3/4) on Nov 12, 2009 19:24:44 GMT
The size of the slot is the same, but as you can see in the specs at Newegg, it features one PCI-E x16 slot and one PCI-E x8 slot It's ready for CrossFire and as Poul said: you won't notice the differance when running a descent CrossFire setup you're looking at, at the moment So technically you're ready for two HD5770's, though i'm not sure that would be the best choice... Bandit
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Post by TheGreenMonster (PC) on Nov 12, 2009 19:34:04 GMT
So your going to plug a 16x card into an 8x card slot? the bios will not support that configuration you will only get an 8x video support from the motherboard. Besides of all lockup you will experience along the way.
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Post by aarog5606 on Nov 12, 2009 19:34:09 GMT
Bandit,
Just for more info, what would you suggest and why?
Anyone else have any suggestions and why? Remember, i want to stay under $400.00.
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Post by Bandit (PC/PS3/4) on Nov 12, 2009 20:19:26 GMT
Well i still have a CrossFire HD2900XT setup lying here but i still haven't thouroughly used it because of it's greedyness for Watts and noisyness, and together they're about as fast as the HD4870 i have right now, with the naked eye that is .. I'm more for a single fast card than a dual setup for the same prize .. I'm kinda busy with lots of things at the moment, but will look into them cards maybe later tonight. So far, i still say save a bit and get that 295 ... Later, Bandit
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Post by aarog5606 on Nov 13, 2009 4:37:05 GMT
Ok Poul, i did some research on overclocking my cpu. I raised my FBS to 363mhz keeping multiplier at 11, now my cpu runs at 3.99ghz I ran furmark benchmark for 2 hours without a problem. Temperatures never got about 52 degrees celsius. I didnt see much raise in frame rate, but my pc sure is faster. The most noticable is load time on startup. I now under stand that my mb has only one x16 PCI slot and the other is x8. I still dont understand how the mb can read a x16 card in a x8 slot, but apparently it does.
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Post by Grnkjr0 on Nov 13, 2009 5:27:06 GMT
Hey Aaron You could even raise that FSB higher if you want to, but you will not see an increase in FPS unless you run a much higher resolution in games with all the eye candy. It is not the temperature of the video card that is important but the temperature of the CPU. You need to run Everest to see the temperatures on your cores. I forgot how high Intel considered to be safe on the Core 2 duo series. You need to look that up in the manual, get Everest 30 day trial version here www.lavalys.com/products.php?ps=UE&lang=en&page=48About you running crossfire. You CAN run crossfire but I am not sure if not the lanes will become x8 / x8 or it will be x16 / x8. Motherboards gets new revisions all the times. You will perhaps see a 5-15 fps drop compared to running them in full x16 and x16, but you should not let that worry you at all. You will see an increase in FPS you would never had thought possible compared to what you are running now. More important is the fact that despite the two 5770 are faster than a single 5850, you would perhaps benefit from installing a 5850 giving the fact that you can run that in x16. I am not sure which setup is the fastest and what gives the best performance in Shift, but thinking about that new Shift patch and new ATI driver coming out and all - you might wanna buy the 5770´s anyway. I read an article about P45 with x8 / x8 compared against X48 that has the full x16 / x16 and in there they see a fps drop - small but its there. www.tweaktown.com/articles/1472/intel_p45_vs_x48_crossfire_performance/index.htmlI asked about your PSU being able to run two 5770´s in crossfire at a forum and someone replied that it was pushing it. The problem is that when you overclock your CPU - like you just did you also use more watt. You also have two hard disks and a new 24" monitor and I forgot about what else? I really have my concern about your 550W PSU. But go ahead and see if you can do it, or else a super PSU from Corsair can be bought for less than 100$. Now I am off to work - really running late now, but I will post what replies I get to your PSU question when I get home. Poul
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Post by aarog5606 on Nov 13, 2009 14:27:04 GMT
Hey Poul, I stopped at 363mhz FSB because most of the articles i was using suggested to go with a better heat sync if i was to go higher. My temperatures are not much higher than before i overclocked, so i think i will go a little higher. I also read about using Everest, but my MB software disc has a program called Easytune6 and it shows temps for everything. I used it while overclocking. Can also control and monitor fan speeds and voltage with Easytune6. I did install Everest a few minutes ago, it is pretty cool, lots of info! Also it shows same temps as Easytune6 is. I can also use Easytune6 to overclock and tried it first. It changed FSB and lowered mutiplier but wouldnt finish the furmark benchmark test, so i used BIOS and kept mutiplier the same as recommended by several sites. I am really suprised at how easy it was, time consuming but really easy to do.
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Post by TheGreenMonster (PC) on Nov 14, 2009 2:03:29 GMT
Neither the sound system or the monitor pull any load from the power supply. Sound and Monitor have the own power cords. The Power supply only power's up everything inside the box. If it was me I would buy a bigger power supply its only a $100.00 dig a little deeper in your pocket once you intall the two Video cards and pull a full load. If the power supply does fail it could trash everything. you will get a brown out effect from the PS under Voltage and that's worse than a power spike. I want to hear how high you went on the CPU? you seem to have the NFS thing going on. Let us know what the "flash point" is. How high can I push 3.33GHz processor to a 3.99GHz on be on. text message me of you smoke that chip... lol Poul tell me about your CPU setup. That looks like the inside of a Dell Power Edge server with dual CPU" It looks nice. is it one CPU with a giant heat seat and fans or two CPU?
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Post by Grnkjr0 on Nov 14, 2009 5:31:57 GMT
Sunny..
It is one giant heatsink with 3 fans cooling it. It´s a i7 920 running 4.2 GHz all day long. I am quite happy about that overclock.
Poul
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Post by Grnkjr0 on Nov 14, 2009 5:37:09 GMT
I forgot... Aaron please post a picture of those temps, d**n if I would have your CPU on my conceesion Edited: Damn spellheck. That last word is one I never use in dansih or english. "Samvittighed" - NO Poul
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Post by TheGreenMonster (PC) on Nov 14, 2009 5:59:55 GMT
Wow i7, it looks great inside. Thats one hell of a big azz heat sink. I can see where liquid cooling would cut down on space. however springing a leak and shorting out the board would really suck.
Next year I'll get a new PC.
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Post by aarog5606 on Nov 14, 2009 14:51:19 GMT
Here is temps at idle. and after 1 hour of running Furmark at 16x MSAA. After running Furmark for over 2 and a half hours at 16x MSAA after overclocking the other night, the temps were - MB - 58 degrees c CPU - 48 degrees c CPU core1 - 52 degrees c CPU core2 - 52 degrees c GPU diode - 81 degrees c Sorry, i didnt take any screenshots the other night when i overclocked, i just wrote everything down. While playing Shift last night, i tried to record a video and had a terrible stutter with antialiasion(think i spelled that wrong) on, even at 2xAA. At 0xAA, it was ok. If not recording there is no problem at all. Of course im running alot higher resolution than before i overclocked, but i could record at 8xAA before. Will better videocard(s) help this?
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