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Post by Grnkjr0 on May 23, 2010 11:31:40 GMT
Hey again How big a difference is there from a starting lap and a flying lap on Nordschleife? I have been practicing that track and today I did a 5.58 starting lap, but I surely made a mistake that costed me about 4-5 secs until my speed was back up. I was in the sand and had trouble getting out again and when I look at the time clock counter from when I entered the sand until I was back on track it took 5 secs and my car had only moved about 10m - to the side off track of course. I will upload that damn video for you guys to see what an idiot I am for not taking it just a little bit slow in that particular turn. Anyway is there a difference between flying and starting of maybe 2 secs? Look at the 1st picture where I slide off track - time clock says 4.32 and the 2nd picture it says 4.37 before I am back on track. Well you guys can see for yourself when video is up running. I will upload video and now I have to do some GARDEN WORK my conscience tells me. Poul
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Post by Grnkjr0 on May 23, 2010 15:22:13 GMT
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Post by rtxus (PC) on May 23, 2010 16:35:40 GMT
Hey poul, nice one I guess this error costs a lot. Im sure u can easily improve 3-4secs. Whats wondering me its the difference you showed on the both screens above...My WR time was 5:57:9xx in the second lap and against cip online i did a better 5:57 standing with a lot of lill mistakes (not such as yours) but if its true and i remove 5secs to my pb i can catch a new podium place^^ Greetz Marco
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Post by Grnkjr0 on May 23, 2010 17:00:45 GMT
Hey rxtus I am not sure if its 3-4 secs, but it looks to be that much that sand trip costs to my final time. What is it in the pictures that puzzles you? I am not sure I know what you mean. I think the grip is better online and for a track like Nordschleife that comes in handy.
Poul
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Post by rtxus (PC) on May 23, 2010 17:06:26 GMT
Oh sry...my bad, i thought that was first/second lap difference...next time i should read the hole posting^^ (My mind was in the PBRC NS Run...)
Greetz Marco
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Post by SPEEDFr3ak on May 23, 2010 17:55:02 GMT
The difference between a first lap and a flying lap at the NS is usually 1s for me in the Zonda...Online, I doubt that the grip is better since I've done my best times (5:52s) offline.My online times are usually 5:54s
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Post by Grnkjr0 on May 23, 2010 18:03:58 GMT
Yeah between 1-2 secs for a flying lap - I just tested and I was 2 secs faster after 30 secs into my run. I really hate the fact that it needs to be 2nd lap on Nordschleife for wrecord - takes too damn long in my opinion and if you crash you can start all over.
Sesfontain you should go do that 5.52 and claim a podium place - we need more medal for ISRC II.
Poul
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Post by SPEEDFr3ak on May 23, 2010 20:28:48 GMT
I should, yep:P I'll try it the next days, I'm too tired from my biketours atm;) EDIT: Tried it a min ago 5:54.288 - my secotrs overall combined would break the wr, but its freaking hard to get this perfect run! EDIT2: You point where you lost the car- if you combined a 4:42 at this part without loosing the car and doing a wr sector 3, you would get a mid 5:54;)
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Post by Dreamgate (PC) on May 23, 2010 22:45:58 GMT
Dame i tried it now, i dont get under 6.00.000. I did 9 laps puuh Always do some mistake on one off those sectors. You guys are good
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Post by Grnkjr0 on May 24, 2010 9:44:46 GMT
Sesfontain is that point in the video 4.42 the 2nd sector time? I am not sure what you mean here - sry.
If you see in my video the point where I am 3.20 into the race I have done that 3secs faster on a flying lap. I tried this morning too - but my concentration is not that good and this is a demanding track where when you make the slightest mistake you are out.
I think I can do maybee 5.53 with some luck on a flying lap.
Poul
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Post by SPEEDFr3ak on May 24, 2010 10:14:37 GMT
the screenshooted point of 4:32- if you hadnt chrashed there and did a wr in the last sector, you would have gotten a 5:54 Btw, I suck atm:( 5:52.9 standing, but penalty-.- 2:07.2 aremberg, but I could have broken the wr, because I chrashed at the corner after Fuchsroehre. Karussel 2:00:77 possible :-! Cant control the car atm
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Post by Grnkjr0 on May 24, 2010 19:27:45 GMT
the screenshooted point of 4:32- if you hadnt chrashed there and did a wr in the last sector, you would have gotten a 5:54 Btw, I suck atm:( 5:52.9 standing, but penalty-.- 2:07.2 aremberg, but I could have broken the wr, because I chrashed at the corner after Fuchsroehre. Karussel 2:00:77 possible :-! Cant control the car atm 5.52 with a standing start - OMG - sesfontain. About that 5.54 you say I would have gotten if I had not crashed and done a 3rd sector in WR time - well my 3rd sector I can do in 1.14.325 and that is easy to do. Look at picture. I tried tonight to do some laps but I kept making mistakes, but I did do a low 5.55 on 2nd lap - also with a lot of mistakes - but it is in fact the fastest I have even done I will try again in a few days. From now on I have to read up on some material because on Wednesday I will hopefully get that forklift certificate. Poul
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Post by SPEEDFr3ak on May 24, 2010 19:57:51 GMT
the screenshooted point of 4:32- if you hadnt chrashed there and did a wr in the last sector, you would have gotten a 5:54 Btw, I suck atm:( 5:52.9 standing, but penalty-.- 2:07.2 aremberg, but I could have broken the wr, because I chrashed at the corner after Fuchsroehre. Karussel 2:00:77 possible :-! Cant control the car atm 5.52 with a standing start - OMG - sesfontain. Poul No joke 8-)The thing is, if youre able to be constant, youll get those times.Its easy to loose a second or two only due a few corners... Btw, the gearing affects the bouncing at the ns a lot I had bad problems with your long 5th and 4th gear... Concentrate on the constance and I'm sure, that you'll be able to do 5:53 or even lower! With some luck the wr.
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Post by Grnkjr0 on May 24, 2010 21:43:17 GMT
Sesfontain
I tried your suggestion to lower gears - it did not feel right so I only changed 4th gear and that felt quite nice - gave me better grip cornering in that gear I think. I also tried to set ABS on and that instantly improved my 1st sector time by 1 sec - problem is when I need to brake I have to do that a bit sooner than usual. I need to get use to that if I am gonna use it. Or perhaps downshift to an even lower gear each time - donĀ“t know about that yet. I can now do 1st sector in 1.35.xx from standing start - not bad i think.
Poul
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Post by SPEEDFr3ak on May 24, 2010 21:48:24 GMT
Thats nice to hear! Btw, my first sector from the standing 5:52 was a 1:35.xx too, dunno exactly...ABS, I dont know, what should be better for you, since you have been really good with it and seem to have a great control even with those blocking tires... Did the laptime improve after changing the gears or after changing to ABS on?
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