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Post by Jussi on Sept 1, 2014 1:49:08 GMT
Guys, our RR3 ends this week and we need to come up with something for the future. I think un1que suggested 0% durability races. We could do a 2 round series, where the first round would be done with 0% durability and second one with parts enabled. This series would obviously leave out the S class, since there are only 3 S class cars and they are all require SB. (Did any IGC player ever get a Veyron without cheats or hacks or bug abuse?) Another idea I remember was series based on old tier system. We could also do IGC series or another Revolution. What are your suggestions? Jussi
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Post by FasterthaMyou on Sept 1, 2014 3:26:03 GMT
I really liked the "Sailing with traffic" forum Friday. Why don't we do an all boaty/challenging handling series? Dust off those Gt's, 4.2 R8's,Evo 9's, Terlingua's, Challenger's, Charger R/T's, etc.
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Post by ELRIO77 on Sept 1, 2014 7:29:19 GMT
Can't believe the last series is coming to an end already. Can't wait for the next one. That 0% durability racing sounds like a nice idea. @jussi I think it was calculated to be possible but would take immense time as well as factoring winning some codes from events or from the milestone giveaways. Have not personally met anyone able to do it 100% IGC. I really liked the "Sailing with traffic" forum Friday. Why don't we do an all boaty/challenging handling series? Dust off those Gt's, 4.2 R8's,Evo 9's, Terlingua's, Challenger's, Charger R/T's, etc. I also liked that event. I think the only problem would be how far we are willing to go with restrictions because we would have to take into consideration the cars currently available for IGC since not everyone would have tons of boats in their garage unless they are a fan of the car or have collected majority of the cars in-game. For example, for that FF event, there were 4 or 5 available cars to choose from per class but some still found it hard to find some cars to be able to participate in 1 of the classes. (Having maybe say only 2 or 3 of the cars over 5 classes)
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Post by Prosektikos on Sept 1, 2014 7:59:50 GMT
Ah, I missed these events. Summer obligations kept me from playing NFSW every day. Starting from the next series, I'll be in the game again. The 0% races sound like a brilliant idea to me as well! At least better than the "boat" event for the reasons mentioned by Rio! I wouldn't mind if any of these were picked though. My 2 cents for event ideas: How about model-restricted races? Obviously only with current IGC cars. Something like racing only with a Scirocco or a 200SX, tuned or not. Even maybe restricting parts to Street only (for example), or limiting OA to a number? Giga's idea of the OA handicap at his first contest over the NFSW forum was good IMO (the lower the OA, the more milliseconds are cut off from your final time).
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Post by dejanboskov on Sept 1, 2014 9:06:07 GMT
I would say IGC only with restriction of the IGC class kings like Solstice for d,c and b class,IS300 for D class and ect. For 0% durability we need to do a lot of races which I don't have time for and I'm repairing my cars every time I stop racing so that 0% challenge is not meant for me. Also Rally and Vintage series would be good. I know that there was a vintage series but it would be good for those to come back or the rally challenge with rally cars.
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Post by Chandrian on Sept 1, 2014 11:22:08 GMT
Another idea I remember was series based on old tier system. Was thinking about something like this the other day.
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Post by ianism on Sept 1, 2014 15:33:02 GMT
i don't really have a preference. i like all the ideas. the only one that doesn't work for me is the boat one - i don't really have any of those cars... only the E92 achievement one
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Post by Jussi on Sept 1, 2014 22:11:59 GMT
How about 2 round series with currently available cars. ROUND 1 - Play 4 Free - Currently available IGC cars with 0% durability ROUND 2 - Pay 2 Win - Currently available SB cars with performance tuning enabled Classes D, C, B and A only. Jussi
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Post by Chandrian on Sept 1, 2014 23:38:49 GMT
How about a series with only those cars which got implemented before the class update (this would basically mean all the OP cars that were SB exclusive then and later were made available with IGC)? Or Beta only cars (Gallardo, E46, Z06, R8 4.2, RX-7, R35, Eclipse, 350Z, Cayman S, Elise, Mazda 3, 240SX, Corolla, Silvia, R32 anda few more)? 0% durability could be implemented there too Idk, the last car I bought was the Zonda F with 50% discount for 24 hours a month or so after its release, so I'm kinda stuck with the best old cars. I understand we'll never get the perfect balance, but 0% durability and the fact that everyone would be able to use the best car for that track woud be the closest thing to it. Hell, I'd even be up for races in which only one car is allowed (say D class Silvia race, because, who doesn't have a Silvia?), but I guess some will say that's too drastic. I'd even remove the DQ for this kind of series. The most balanced and competitive race is where everyone drives the same car, with the same OA and only his skills matter and not the fact that he can't afford to buy that car or because the best car is the most OP one that some have and some don't. All in all, except on some scenarios, RR3 is proving to be the most balanced series I've participated in so far and I would even be fine with participating in an RR4 adding to the banned list the ones we've banned in RR3 round 1 and ban the ones from round 2. Yes, the number of cars at our disposal would be very limited, but that would force people to find new cars and ways to race with.
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Post by Jussi on Sept 2, 2014 0:22:56 GMT
How about a series with only those cars which got implemented before the class update (this would basically mean all the OP cars that were SB exclusive then and later were made available with IGC)? Or Beta only cars (Gallardo, E46, Z06, R8 4.2, RX-7, R35, Eclipse, 350Z, Cayman S, Elise, Mazda 3, 240SX, Corolla, Silvia, R32 anda few more)? 0% durability could be implemented there too Idk, the last car I bought was the Zonda F with 50% discount for 24 hours a month or so after its release, so I'm kinda stuck with the best old cars. I think currently available IGC cars would do just fine. In zero durability round, everyone has equal chance of winning, apart from people with fast computers and steering wheels being in slight advantage over people with slower computers and keyboards. In the second round we'd be using upgraded cars. If they are IGC cars, we can't really call it a pay to win round. All in all, except on some scenarios, RR3 is proving to be the most balanced series I've participated in so far and I would even be fine with participating in an RR4 adding to the banned list the ones we've banned in RR3 round 1 and ban the ones from round 2. Yes, the number of cars at our disposal would be very limited, but that would force people to find new cars and ways to race with. We could do Round 2 in our series using the restriction list from RR3 or combine RR4 with the "Play 4 Free" round, giving free players chance to be at the top in the final standings. I really like the idea of seeing who the fastest guys really are, even though I myself will probably drop a lot on the leaderboard after loosing the pay to win advantage. Two things we will certainly have is equal opportunity series and 4th revolution. Maybe we should just do an 8 race series called "Play 4 Free" first? ROUND 1 - Currently available IGC cars with 0% durability ROUND 2 - Currently available IGC cars with parts enabled...and then do the 4th revolution after that. Jussi
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Post by DerpyMail on Sept 2, 2014 0:27:29 GMT
I really love the idea of racing with boats. Seriously, it's fun, and it could be something different. I'd say we do at least 1 boat races, or maybe two.
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Post by Jussi on Sept 2, 2014 2:33:00 GMT
Wouldn't at least one of the classes in 0% Currently available IGC round end up being a boat race? ...which reminded me, that we should probably have Class a in our IGC series as well. Jussi
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Post by Jussi on Sept 2, 2014 3:08:16 GMT
--------------------------------------------------------------------- CURRENTLY AVAILABLE CLASS E CARS | YEAR | STOCK | CLASSES ------------------------------------------+------+-------+----------- Dodge Challenger R/T | 1971 | E 175 | E, D, C Dodge Charger R/T | 1969 | E 188 | E, D, C Mitsubishi Eclipse GT | 2006 | E 201 | E, D, C, B Pontiac GTO '65 | 1965 | E 204 | E, D, C Nissan Silvia (S15) | 1999 | E 212 | E, D, C, B Volkswagen Scirocco | 2008 | E 213 | E, D, C, B Nissan 240SX (S13) | 1992 | E 224 | E, D, C, B Mazda MazdaSpeed 3 | 2009 | E 226 | E, D, C, B Nissan 200SX (S14) | 1995 | E 229 | E, D, C, B Volkswagen R32 | 2006 | E 243 | E, D, C, B --------------------------------------------------------------------- CURRENTLY AVAILABLE CLASS D CARS | YEAR | STOCK | CLASSES ------------------------------------------+------+-------+----------- Chevrolet Cobalt SS | 2008 | D 267 | D, C, B Chevrolet Chevelle SS | 1970 | D 327 | D, C, B Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution IX MR-Edition | 2006 | D 329 | D, C, B Volkswagen Golf MK1 GTI | 1974 | D 352 | D, C, B, a Pontiac Solstice GXP | 2007 | D 357 | D, C, B, a Reanault Sport Clio V6 | 2005 | D 361 | D, C, B, a Dodge Charger SRT8 Super Bee | 2007 | D 370 | D, C, B Lexus IS-F | 2008 | D 379 | D, C, B, a --------------------------------------------------------------------- CURRENTLY AVAILABLE CLASS C CARS | YEAR | STOCK | CLASSES ------------------------------------------+------+-------+----------- Audi S5 | 2009 | C 409 | C, B Audi TT RS Coupe | 2010 | C 428 | C, B Toyota Supra | 1998 | C 429 | C, B, a Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution X | 2008 | C 449 | C, B, a BMW M3 Sport Evolution | 1986 | C 467 | C, B, a Lamborghini Countach 5000 Quattrovalvole | 1985 | C 477 | C, B, a Ford GT40 Mk I | 1966 | C 478 | C, B, a Chevrolet Corvette Stingray | 1967 | C 482 | C, B, a --------------------------------------------------------------------- CURRENTLY AVAILABLE CLASS B CARS | YEAR | STOCK | CLASSES ------------------------------------------+------+-------+----------- Lotus Elise | 2007 | B 500 | B, a, A Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 | 2012 | B 507 | B, a Nissan GT-R (R35) | 2008 | B 579 | B, a Lamborghini Gallardo LP 560-4 | 2009 | B 592 | B, a BMW M6 CoupƩ | 2010 | B 594 | B, a, A, S --------------------------------------------------------------------- CURRENTLY AVAILABLE CLASS A CARS | YEAR | STOCK | CLASSES ------------------------------------------+------+-------+----------- Chevrolet Corvette Z06 | 2006 | A 604 | a Nissan GT-R SpecV (R35) | 2009 | A 645 | a, A Audi R8 Coupe 5.2 FSI Quattro | 2009 | A 653 | a, A Lamborghini MurciƩlago LP 640 | 2006 | A 655 | a, A Porsche 959 | 1987 | A 671 | a, A, S Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 | 2009 | A 674 | a, A, S Ford Mustang Boss 302 '12 | 2012 | A 688 | a, A, S ------------------------------------------+------+-------+----------- BMW M1 Procar (1979) | 1979 | A 710 | A, S Porsche 911 GT3 RS | 2009 | A 710 | A, S Lexus LFA | 2011 | A 713 | A, S ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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Post by Prosektikos on Sept 2, 2014 8:23:53 GMT
I understand we'll never get the perfect balance, but 0% durability and the fact that everyone would be able to use the best car for that track woud be the closest thing to it. Hell, I'd even be up for races in which only one car is allowed (say D class Silvia race, because, who doesn't have a Silvia?), but I guess some will say that's too drastic. I'd even remove the DQ for this kind of series. The most balanced and competitive race is where everyone drives the same car, with the same OA and only his skills matter and not the fact that he can't afford to buy that car or because the best car is the most OP one that some have and some don't. This. On the matter of IGC vs SB players and the variety in players' garages and skill levels, why not run an event with divisions? First thing that comes to my mind is dividing by using specific DQ lines. For example, on a track where the top time is 1:00.000, the first division should be joined by drivers who beat a time of, let's say, 1:10.000, the second by drivers who hit times between 1:10.001 and 1:15.000, etc.. Implying that there will be a qualification week of course. And maybe a motive to aim for higher divisions rather than stick to the low ones. Alternatively divisions could be made by separating IGC drivers and SB drivers. Or even better, by those who will choose to drive only SB cars and those who will choose to drive only current (or maybe past too) IGC cars. The divisions would run in parallel with separate leaderboards. There are many other paths to follow, like dividing by manufacturer or, better, by specific models like Chandrian said. If each model (or group of models like in RR) makes up their own division with its own leaderboard, we could be able to also distinguish drivers who are especially good at driving specific cars. The disadvantage of the aforementioned system might be a fragmentation in the leaderboards/divisions. Like too many drivers in one division and too little in another. But I guess this could be tuned accordingly by adding/removig divisions?
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Post by Jussi on Sept 2, 2014 8:56:21 GMT
We already have driver classes. You just do not know your class, until the series is over. Jussi
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