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Post by Grnkjr0 on Mar 1, 2010 20:27:21 GMT
Hey Richard
You need to use the Prt Scr (Print Screen) tab on your keyboard and then go into paint and press paste and then save it as like a jpeg file.
But as I thought Shift does not support GPU PhysX - the processing is done by the CPU - so no need for people to worry about that when using ATI cards.
Poul
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Post by RicardoElfrinko (PC) on Mar 1, 2010 21:02:18 GMT
I've tried using the PrintScreen button, but all I get is this: Yeah, I know it's wide, but I've got a second monitor attached.
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Post by TomasT (PC) on Mar 1, 2010 21:07:21 GMT
OMG you have over 100 fps while playing Poul?
I have a ATI Radeon 5870 X2. Any info on exact settings I should use?
What resolution and in game graphic settings do you use?
I have the same stuff as discussed at EA-forum, my framerate doesnt get better from lowering the graphic settings. I'm on a good day around 40 fps, sometimes when running fraps I get below 30 fps, which makes it unplayable.
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Post by Grnkjr0 on Mar 1, 2010 21:29:58 GMT
I will check tomorrow morning Tomas. I need some sleep - need to get up early.
I play in 1920x1200 with high settings - not sure how high though. I will check tomorrow.
Poul
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Post by TomasT (PC) on Mar 1, 2010 21:35:50 GMT
You use a ATI card, Poul? If so, I would be even more interested in your settings in the Catalyst control center. A screenshot of every window there would be ... a lot of screenshofts but very helpful. Good night!
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Post by aarog5606 on Mar 1, 2010 21:45:49 GMT
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Post by TheGreenMonster (PC) on Mar 1, 2010 21:52:02 GMT
I am going to buy that ATi 4890 with some of my income tax check but I was reading this benchmark test Ati 4890 ver NVidia GTX-275 and now I'm not sure on which is the best buy? I have a question to all who own them... Do I have to modify the heat sinks on either cards? Like Poul mention adding better heat sink to his GTX-285 I check out the video card Rogério bought and it was $300.00 US that ATi 4890 $179.00 US www.techspot.com/review/164-radeon-4890-vs-geforce-gtx275/
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Post by VGSpeedPro on Mar 1, 2010 22:26:59 GMT
Tomas, I installed Catalyst 10.2 and didnt change anything... Went into game, put everything High Settings In-Game and had over Autopolis between 75 and +120 fps. My Card is "just" the 5850 and my CPU is the old E8400.
Are you using the latest Drivers?
Rogério
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Post by aarog5606 on Mar 1, 2010 22:27:06 GMT
Sunny, I think Poul installed better heat sinks because he overclocks. You wont need to if you buy the 4890, which is my suggesion. Mainly because our specs are so close and i run 80-100fps when not recording on most tracks.
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Post by TheGreenMonster (PC) on Mar 1, 2010 22:54:00 GMT
Ok,,, dang it Jim....
I read earlier in this discussion about the NVidia card having Physx,, So I went there to see for myself and sure enough I had an icon for it and so I open it up to see what it might say... then I exited no big deal I didn't change anything...
Now in the game shift I see at the top of my screen PhysX CPU.... in bold green neon lettters...
how do I get rid of that?
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Post by TomasT (PC) on Mar 2, 2010 0:04:10 GMT
Sunny, check this thread and draw your own conclusions ;P forums.amd.com/game/messageview.cfm?catid=279&threadid=118976&STARTPAGE=1&FTVAR_FORUMVIEWTMP=LinearNot a very happy read for us AMD-users. The game, according to "some people" was built for physX which is a nVidia product and not supported by AMD/ATI-cards. Turning psysX off works in some games that has the same issue, like mirrors edge, though then you miss the really slick effects like dirt and high detail stuff flying around which mostly physX are for. Disappointing enough shift has no option inside the game to turn it off, although some OS's has the option to turn it off which isnt the same thing though. That might be pretty much what's causing the conflict. I searched for something similiar to this to compare actual nfs shift gameplay with physx turned on: www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0xRJt8rcmYThats mirrors edge, it still illustrates what it's used for though. Perhaps someone with an nvidia card could do something similar to show us what the difference looks like in shift? With amd cards we can never see those extra cosmetical stuff supported by the physx engine. The only thing that happens when we turn it on is that the graphic card try's to show something, or process graphics that it can't, so we have lower framerate issues and so on due to incompatibility. Rogerio, I just found that latest update that came 17/2-2010, I'm gonna download it and see what fps I get. Thanks for the heads up and congrats on the good framerate.
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Post by Grnkjr0 on Mar 2, 2010 5:15:50 GMT
I am not so sure that you will be able to tell a difference with PhysX on and off in this game. I will test this later when I get back from work. AMD cards in general should have an edge compared to Nvidia cards, because of the ATI patch as well as the Shift patch. All in all you would be better off at the moment with an ATI card from 4890 and up - simply because they are cheaper and faster compared to anything Nvidia has to offer in the same price range. Mind you we will see new Nvidia based graphics card out with the new Fermi micro-architecture - the GF100 chip. Those will be called 470 GTX and 480 GTX and they will be high end graphics card - but they are rumored to only be on pair with the best ATI cards. So to those planning on buying a new card - wait until March 26th when these comes out and see how they perform and more important what will happen to current prices of higher mid range cards? I think that new 480GTX will be priced around 600$ anyway and perhaps not something people in here wanna buy anyway - but like I wrote - prices might change with an competitor on the market. We all know that ATI will have no problem releasing even faster cards, because at the moment they are about a 1/2 year ahead of Nvidia in their development. Tomas you asked me what my graphics settings are. When I took that screen shot of 163 fps I had 0 anti aliasing. I tested with the highest settings on London Royal Mile doing a lap time of 1.20 and my fps were in average this - taken from FRAPSlog. Ran it twice and got same result. 2010-03-02 05:33:29 - shift Frames: 9926 - Time: 81160ms - Avg: 122.302 - Min: 99 - Max: 150 That benchmark was from FRAPS - hotkey 11 - and i started the test when the green light comes up and then I hit the hot key when I pass the finish line doing the lap time in a modest 1.20. Remember I have a 285 GTX highly overclocked and a Intel Core i7 920 running 4.22 GHz - that is much faster than a 1000$ i7 975. I am of course not CPU limited when playing and this I know some of you are. With a 5870X2 - you should see fps much higher than me and you must have some sort of problem you are unaware off if you are running that low numbers. My suggestion is you update everything and you need to find that article Jeff linked at some point about some ATI cards stuttering when playing Shift with the new patch. I am short of time and I can not find it at the moment, but I can help later today. Poul These settings I used when doing the benchmark.
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Post by rcgldr on Mar 2, 2010 10:34:41 GMT
You need to find that article Jeff linked at some point about some ATI cards stuttering when playing Shift with the new patch. From the fairness in NFS shift thread: In normal mode your video card should be OK, but in this patch 1.02 preview, when running NFS Shift at absurdly high resolution and max graphics, they made this comparative statement about gameplay between the 4870x2 and the 5870: Though the difference in framerates is small, the difference in gameplay was huge. Using the HD 4870 X2 at 2560x1600 with 24X CFAA, the game was not smooth at all. It was choppy and there was a huge amount of input latency. It took longer for the car or brake to turn after we pressed the button telling it so, and so we crashed a lot more.www.hardocp.com/article/2009/11/10/need_for_speed_shift_gameplay_performance_iq/7Since that preview, ATI drivers 9.11, 9.12, 10.1, and 10.2 have been released, but I see no mention of NFS Shift in the release notes.
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Post by VGSpeedPro on Mar 2, 2010 13:35:23 GMT
Hi!
Poul, what graphic settings do you recomend me to use? Everything High with Motion Blur Off?
Thanks!
Rogério
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Post by SPEEDFr3ak on Mar 2, 2010 14:06:01 GMT
About what youre talking with Tomas is Microstutteringsm apperaring while having two GPU's. AMD does nothing to fix this problem ,which causes input lag and of course those small stutterings making the game running unsmoothly.It'll will may help for you Tomas ,to rename your executable in a game which is highly MultiGPU optimized. To Rogerio ,I'd advise to use max settings. Motionblur depends on your opinion ,if you want to have those effects or not. I've disabled my OC on my GTX285 and have still lots of FPS ,a HD5850 is as fast as my card ,so the quality wont be a problem for you.Even with 8x AA or more.. To Monster. Buy a HD4890 if you adore 8x AA this card is surely faster in every case with such settings.Theyre both sam fast ,but in my opinion ,NVidia supports its cards more with better drivers and an option of MGPU.Also they are working on Microstutterings like AMD doesnt.If youre a silent fan ,buy the GTX275, the HD4890 is extremely loud, warm and needs a bit more energy. At last I'd advise the GTX275 though. Philipp
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