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Post by andsoclean on Oct 7, 2013 13:38:34 GMT
I would LOVE a US series. I would also enjoy a EU series. In the end, I'm happy both ways...
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Post by LamboGTR on Oct 7, 2013 14:39:11 GMT
US series all the way. Lets get these babies handling some understeer for a change.
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Post by Chandrian on Oct 7, 2013 17:48:34 GMT
Voted for EU.
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tencha
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Post by tencha on Oct 7, 2013 18:26:07 GMT
US will be nice
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Post by insane on Oct 7, 2013 18:37:29 GMT
Last time I checked score was like eu 2- us 7 I see the tables have turned I think I'd prefer an EU series because if I'm not wrong it offers bigger variety of cars then US.
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Post by Jussi on Oct 7, 2013 21:45:45 GMT
How does this look? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- GROUP 1 CARS | YEAR | STOCK | CLASSES ------------------------------------------+------+-------+------------ Volkswagen Scirocco | 2008 | E 213 | E, D, C, B Volkswagen R32 | 2006 | E 243 | E, D, C, B ------------------------------------------+------+-------+------------ BMW 135i Coupe | 2008 | D 347 | D, C, B Porsche Cayman S | 2006 | D 358 | D, C, B Audi RS4 | 2009 | D 389 | D, C, B ------------------------------------------+------+-------+------------ Audi S5 | 2009 | C 409 | C, B Audi TT RS Coupe | 2010 | C 428 | C, B Porsche 911 Turbo | 2006 | C 462 | C, B ------------------------------------------+------+-------+------------ BMW M3 E92 | 2008 | B 508 | B ---------------------------------------------------------------------- GROUP 2 CARS | YEAR | STOCK | CLASSES ------------------------------------------+------+-------+------------ Volkswagen Golf MK1 GTI | 1974 | D 352 | D, C, B, A Reanault Sport Clio V6 | 2005 | D 361 | D, C, B, A BMW Z4 M Coupe | 2007 | D 362 | D, C, B, A ------------------------------------------+------+-------+------------ Audi A1 Clubsport quattro | 2011 | C 446 | C, B, A Ford Escort RS Cosworth | 1992 | C 454 | C, B, A Lancia Delta HF Integrale Evoluzione | 1992 | C 454 | C, B, A Ford Focus RS | 2010 | C 458 | C, B, A FORD Escort MK1 RS1600 FIA Group 2 | 1970 | C 462 | C, B, A Audi A3 3.2 quattro | 2003 | C 464 | C, B, A BMW M3 Sport Evolution | 1986 | C 467 | C, B, A Ford Lotus Cortina | 1965 | C 468 | C, B, A BMW 3.0 CSL Gr. 5 | 1975 | C 473 | C, B, A Lamborghini Countach 5000 Quattrovalvole | 1985 | C 477 | C, B, A Ford GT40 Mk I | 1966 | C 478 | C, B, A Porsche 911 Carrera RSR 3.0 | 1974 | C 478 | C, B, A Lamborghini Miura SV | 1971 | C 479 | C, B, A Audi Quattro 20V | 1989 | C 482 | C, B, A Renault Megane RS | 2010 | C 483 | C, B, A Lotus Exige Cup 260 | 2010 | C 485 | C, B, A Jaguar E-Type Lightweight | 1963 | C 486 | C, B, A Lamborghini Diablo SV | 1999 | C 494 | C, B, A ---------------------------------------------------------------------- GROUP 3 CARS | YEAR | STOCK | CLASSES ------------------------------------------+------+-------+------------ Lotus Elise | 2007 | B 500 | B, A Audi R8 4.2 FSI Quattro | 2007 | B 517 | B, A Vauxhall Monaro VXR | 2006 | B 527 | B, A Lotus Europa S | 2006 | B 563 | B, A BMW 1 Series M Coupe | 2011 | B 575 | B, A Porsche Boxster Spyder | 2012 | B 576 | B, A BMW M3 GTR (E46) | 2003 | B 584 | B, A Porsche Panamera Turbo | 2010 | B 586 | B, A (S) Lamborghini Gallardo LP 560-4 | 2009 | B 592 | B, A Lamborghini Gallardo LP 560-4 Spyder | 2009 | B 593 | B, A ------------------------------------------+------+-------+------------ BMW M6 Convertible | 2010 | B 593 | B, A, S BMW M6 Coupé | 2010 | B 594 | B, A, S ---------------------------------------------------------------------- GROUP 4 CARS | YEAR | STOCK | CLASSES ------------------------------------------+------+-------+------------ Porsche 914-6 GT | 1970 | C 479 | C, B, A (S) Ford Capri RS 3100 | 1973 | C 482 | C, B, A (S) ------------------------------------------+------+-------+------------ Aston Martin V12 Vantage | 2009 | A 641 | A Audi R8 Coupe 5.2 FSI Quattro | 2009 | A 653 | A Lamborghini Murciélago LP 640 | 2006 | A 655 | A (S) Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren 722 Edition | 2007 | A 656 | A BMW Z4 GT3 | 2010 | A 658 | A Lamborghini Gallardo LP 550-2 VB | 2010 | A 660 | A Porsche 911 GT2 | 2003 | A 660 | A (S) Aston Martin DBS | 2008 | A 665 | A Aston Martin DBS Volante | 2009 | A 665 | A Lotus Evora | 2010 | A 665 | A (S) BMW M3 GTS | 2010 | A 667 | A PORSCHE 911 GT2 (997) | 2010 | A 671 | A Pagani Zonda F Roadster | 2006 | A 680 | A ---------------------------------------------------------------------- GROUP 5 CARS | YEAR | STOCK | CLASSES ------------------------------------------+------+-------+------------ Jaguar XKR | 2007 | A 654 | A, S Lamborghini Murciélago LP 650-4 Roadster | 2009 | A 667 | A, S Lamborghini Miura (Concept) | 2006 | A 669 | Porsche 959 | 1987 | A 671 | A, S Alfa Romeo 8C Competizione | 2007 | A 685 | A, S Lamborghini Sesto Elemento | 2012 | A 689 | A, S MARUSSIA B2 | 2012 | A 691 | A, S Bentley Continental SS Convertible | 2010 | A 694 | A, S Pagani Zonda F | 2006 | A 696 | A, S Koenigsegg CCX | 2006 | A 698 | A, S Bentley Continental Supersports Coupe | 2010 | A 699 | A, S Porsche 911 Carrera S | 2012 | A 703 | A, S Lamborghini Murciélago LP 670-4 SV | 2009 | A 707 | A, S BMW M1 Procar (1979) | 1979 | A 710 | A, S McLaren MP4-12C | 2011 | A 710 | A, S Porsche 911 GT3 RS | 2009 | A 710 | A, S ---------------------------------------------------------------------- EA's Class S | YEAR | STORE | CLASSES ------------------------------------------+------+-------+------------ Lamborghini Estoque | | S 751 | A, S LAMBORGHINI REVENTÓN | 2008 | S 756 | A, S Koenigsegg CCX ELITE | 2006 | S 757 | A, S Audi R8 LMS ultra | 2012 | S 759 | A, S PORSCHE 911 GT3 RS 4.0 | 2011 | S 761 | A, S Koenigsegg CCXR Edition | 2008 | S 773 | A, S Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren Stirling Moss | | S 777 | A, S Pagani Zonda Cinque | 2010 | S 782 | A, S Koenigsegg Agera | 2010 | S 783 | A, S Caterham R500 Superlight | | S 800 | A, S McLaren F1 "Elite" | 1998 | S 820 | A, S ------------------------------------------+------+-------+------------ PORSCHE CARRERA GT | 2004 | S 813 | S Bugatti Veyron 16.4 | | S 815 | S Lamborghini Aventador LP700-4 | 2011 | S 824 | S
...also any suggestions with group and class races to have, if we pick EU? ----------------------------------------------------------- Group 1 Cars (or Gr.1 Class B) ----------------------------------------------------------- Group 2 Cars (or Gr.2 Class B) ----------------------------------------------------------- Gr.3 Class A ----------------------------------------------------------- Class A Cars (instead of Group 4) ----------------------------------------------------------- Group 5 Cars (this would have traffic) ----------------------------------------------------------- Class S Cars (all EU cars that can reach Class S) -----------------------------------------------------------
Jussi PS. I'll do US chart as well. But I may need to get my gems first.
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Post by Jussi on Oct 7, 2013 21:52:23 GMT
Which cars are the class kings? Jussi
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DENghini
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Post by DENghini on Oct 7, 2013 22:20:55 GMT
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Post by Racing4chile on Oct 8, 2013 0:57:36 GMT
Which cars are the class kings? Jussi From My experience this should be the king in a no powerup race of course Red one are the king if I had to choose only one for fastest time --------------------------------------------------------------------- GROUP 1 CARS | YEAR | STOCK | CLASSES ------------------------------------------+------+-------+----------- Volkswagen Scirocco | 2008 | E 213 | E, D, C, B BMW 135i Coupe | 2008 | D 347 | D, C, B--------------------------------------------------------------------- GROUP 2 CARS | YEAR | STOCK | CLASSES ------------------------------------------+------+-------+----------- Lamborghini Diablo SV | 1999 | C 494 | C, B, AAudi A1 Clubsport quattro | 2011 | C 446 | C, B, A BMW M3 Sport Evolution | 1986 | C 467 | C, B, A BMW 3.0 CSL Gr. 5 | 1975 | C 473 | C, B, A --------------------------------------------------------------------- GROUP 3 CARS | YEAR | STOCK | CLASSES ------------------------------------------+------+-------+----------- BMW M3 GTR (E46) | 2003 | B 584 | B, A BMW 1 Series M Coupe | 2011 | B 575 | B, A--------------------------------------------------------------------- GROUP 4 CARS | YEAR | STOCK | CLASSES ------------------------------------------+------+-------+----------- Porsche 914-6 GT | 1970 | C 479 | C, B, A, S BMW M3 GTS | 2010 | A 667 | A PORSCHE 911 GT2 (997) | 2010 | A 671 | A Pagani Zonda F Roadster | 2006 | A 680 | A--------------------------------------------------------------------- GROUP 5 CARS | YEAR | STOCK | CLASSES ------------------------------------------+------+-------+----------- Porsche 911 GT2 | 2003 | A 660 | A, S Lamborghini Murciélago LP 650-4 Roadster | 2009 | A 667 | A, S Pagani Zonda F | 2006 | A 696 | A, SLamborghini Murciélago LP 670-4 SV | 2009 | A 707 | A, S --------------------------------------------------------------------- EA's Class S | YEAR | STORE | CLASSES ------------------------------------------+------+-------+----------- LAMBORGHINI REVENTÓN | 2008 | S 756 | A, S Pagani Zonda Cinque | 2010 | S 782 | A, S Koenigsegg Agera | 2010 | S 783 | A, S | McLaren F1 "Elite" | 1998 | S 820 | A, S------------------------------------------+------+-------+----------- Lamborghini Aventador LP700-4 | 2011 | S 824 | S
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Post by Chandrian on Oct 8, 2013 1:08:59 GMT
In my opinion group 2 should also have something like Gr2+ and contain only the OP cars like M3 SE, A1, A3, CSL and Diablo. Also something similar for gr3, the gr3+: M3 GTR, Europa S, 1M, Boxter and M6. Same for gr4 and gr5.
I'm suggesting this because if it's not done, most of us will use OP cars from each group just to have a chance on making a good time. And we can't just ban like ten overpowered cars from the european series. Best would be to, for example, have a race with normal gr2 cars and another race with op gr2 cars (and so on). Or at least make a separate leaderboard for each race containing only the overpowered cars.
Also, EA's class shouldn't exist, if you ask me. I don't know about you, but I only have the Vk GT3RS 4.0 from that class. And, unless you're a guy who tops up every now and then, you won't have most of those cars either.
Would be nice to see the US chart as well, to compare the number of cars available and to see if it would have the same problems as described above.
pd: when did they release the Monaro? (and isn't it the australian version of the pontiac gto?)
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Post by Jussi on Oct 8, 2013 1:19:48 GMT
This was a short list... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- GROUP 1 CARS | YEAR | STOCK | CLASSES ------------------------------------------+------+-------+------------ Dodge Challenger R/T | 1971 | E 175 | E, D, C Dodge Charger R/T | 1969 | E 188 | E, D, C Pontiac GTO '65 | 1965 | E 204 | E, D, C ---------------------------------------------------------------------- GROUP 2 CARS | YEAR | STOCK | CLASSES ------------------------------------------+------+-------+------------ Chevrolet Cobalt SS | 2008 | D 267 | D, C, B (A) Chevrolet Chevelle SS | 1970 | D 327 | D, C, B Dodge Charger SRT8 Super Bee | 2007 | D 370 | D, C, B ------------------------------------------+------+-------+------------ Pontiac Solstice GXP | 2007 | D 357 | D, C, B, A Chevrolet Camaro SS | 1967 | D 362 | D, C, B, A CHRYSLER® HEMI® 300C SRT8 | 2005 | D 385 | D, C, B, A ---------------------------------------------------------------------- GROUP 3 CARS | YEAR | STOCK | CLASSES ------------------------------------------+------+-------+------------ Plymouth Road Runner | 1969 | C 406 | C, B, A Plymouth Hemi Cuda | 1969 | C 408 | C, B, A Pontiac Firebird Formula | 1978 | C 419 | C, B, A Ford Escort RS Cosworth | 1992 | C 454 | C, B, A Ford Focus RS | 2010 | C 458 | C, B, A FORD Escort MK1 RS1600 FIA Group 2 | 1970 | C 462 | C, B, A Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor | 2001 | C 463 | C, B, A Ford Lotus Cortina | 1965 | C 468 | C, B, A Ford GT40 Mk I | 1966 | C 478 | C, B, A Chevrolet Corvette Stingray | 1967 | C 482 | C, B, A Ford Capri RS 3100 | 1973 | C 482 | C, B, A (S) Shelby Cobra Daytona Coupe | 1963 | C 483 | C, B, A FORD F-150 SVT RAPTOR | 2012 | C 494 | C, B, A Chevrolet El Camino SS | 1970 | C 495 | C, B, A Cadillac CTS-V | 2009 | C 497 | C, B, A Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 ELITE | 2012 | C 497 | C, B, A ---------------------------------------------------------------------- GROUP 4 CARS | YEAR | STOCK | CLASSES ------------------------------------------+------+-------+------------ Ford Mustang Boss 302 '69 | 1969 | B 505 | B, A Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 | 2012 | B 507 | B, A Dodge Challenger Concept | 2006 | B 517 | B, A Need for Speed World BFH SUV | 2012 | B 521 | B, A Hummer H1 Alpha | 2006 | B 524 | B, A Ford Shelby Terlingua Mustang | 2008 | B 526 | B, A Vauxhall Monaro VXR | 2006 | B 527 | B, A Dodge Viper SRT-10 | 2006 | B 534 | B, A Shelby Cobra 427S/C | 1966 | B 536 | B, A Ford GT | 2006 | B 590 | B, A ------------------------------------------+------+-------+------------ Chevrolet Corvette Z06 | 2006 | A 604 | A Chevrolet Corvette Z06 Carbon Ltd Edition | 2010 | A 646 | A ---------------------------------------------------------------------- GROUP 5 CARS | YEAR | STOCK | CLASSES ------------------------------------------+------+-------+------------ Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT | | B 565 | B, A, S ------------------------------------------+------+-------+------------ Ford Police Interceptor | 2013 | A 638 | A (S) Ford Shelby GT500 Super Snake | 2012 | A 669 | A, S Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 | 2009 | A 674 | A, S Dodge Viper SRT10 ACR "Elite" | 2010 | A 679 | A, S Ford Mustang Boss 302 '12 | 2012 | A 688 | A, S Ford Mustang RTR-X | 2010 | A 734 | A, S
Jussi
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Post by Jussi on Oct 8, 2013 1:24:38 GMT
Also, EA's class shouldn't exist, if you ask me. I don't know about you, but I only have the Vk GT3RS 4.0 from that class. And, unless you're a guy who tops up every now and then, you won't have most of those cars either. EA's Class S is there to exclude those cars from Group 5. There will be no race for that class, just one for all Class S cars. Jussi
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Post by yuufaisallout on Oct 8, 2013 3:05:42 GMT
Actually I'm OK on either ones, so I'm not voting :/
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Post by nekholu on Oct 8, 2013 3:47:29 GMT
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Post by bumbilek on Oct 8, 2013 5:16:34 GMT
I still prefer US but in the group 1, chevelle owners will have huge benefit and also too OP compare to other car listed in that group, making it too unfair. All because I don't own one They won't have much benefit, since Pontiac Solstice is in the same group
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